Badenoch says maternity pay benefits ‘excessive’
Kemi Badenoch has said she thinks maternity pay is too high.
In an interview with Times Radio, she was asked if she thought maternity pay was at the right level. She replied:
Maternity pay varies, depending on who you work for. But statutory maternity pay is a function of tax, tax comes from people who are working. We’re taking from one group of people and giving to another. This, in my view, is excessive.
Businesses are closing, businesses are not starting in the UK, because they say that the burden of regulation is too high.
When asked to confirm that she thinks maternity pay is excessive, she replied:
I think it’s gone too far the other way, in terms of general business regulation. We need to allow businesses, especially small businesses, to make more of those decisions.
The exact amount of maternity pay, in my view, is neither here nor there. We need to make sure that we are creating an enviroment where people can work and people can have more freedom to make their own decisions.
When it was put to her that level of maternity pay was important for people who could not otherwise afford to have a baby, Badenoch said:
We need to have more personal responsibility. There was a time when there wasn’t any maternity pay and people were having more babies.
Statutory maternity pay is 90% of average weekly earnings for the first six weeks, and then £184 per week, or 90% of average pay, for the next 33 weeks.
Badenoch says she practises what she preaches in this regard. According to Blue Ambition, Michael Ashcroft’s useful and mostly positive biography of Badenoch, when she was head of digital operations at the Spectator, before becoming an MP, and she became pregnant with her second child, she resigned instead of taking maternity leave. “She told me she thought it would be unfair to ask us to keep her job open while she was on maternity leave,” Fraser Nelson, the Spectator editor, is quoted in the book as saying. “She would have been within her rights not to have done that.”
Badenoch might have been helped in making this decision by the fact that her husband is an investment banker.
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Russell Findlay, who was elected Scottish Conservative leader on Friday, has said that he wants to unite the Scottish party. He told BBC Scotland:
I have got the mandate from the membership to do so.
I want to move forward as one winning team, to get us back winning again by coming up with a proper policy platform rooted in our Conservative values of aspiration and ambition, and showing people across Scotland we understand their concerns and we are on their side.
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Badenoch says maternity pay benefits ‘excessive’
Kemi Badenoch has said she thinks maternity pay is too high.
In an interview with Times Radio, she was asked if she thought maternity pay was at the right level. She replied:
Maternity pay varies, depending on who you work for. But statutory maternity pay is a function of tax, tax comes from people who are working. We’re taking from one group of people and giving to another. This, in my view, is excessive.
Businesses are closing, businesses are not starting in the UK, because they say that the burden of regulation is too high.
When asked to confirm that she thinks maternity pay is excessive, she replied:
I think it’s gone too far the other way, in terms of general business regulation. We need to allow businesses, especially small businesses, to make more of those decisions.
The exact amount of maternity pay, in my view, is neither here nor there. We need to make sure that we are creating an enviroment where people can work and people can have more freedom to make their own decisions.
When it was put to her that level of maternity pay was important for people who could not otherwise afford to have a baby, Badenoch said:
We need to have more personal responsibility. There was a time when there wasn’t any maternity pay and people were having more babies.
Statutory maternity pay is 90% of average weekly earnings for the first six weeks, and then £184 per week, or 90% of average pay, for the next 33 weeks.
Badenoch says she practises what she preaches in this regard. According to Blue Ambition, Michael Ashcroft’s useful and mostly positive biography of Badenoch, when she was head of digital operations at the Spectator, before becoming an MP, and she became pregnant with her second child, she resigned instead of taking maternity leave. “She told me she thought it would be unfair to ask us to keep her job open while she was on maternity leave,” Fraser Nelson, the Spectator editor, is quoted in the book as saying. “She would have been within her rights not to have done that.”
Badenoch might have been helped in making this decision by the fact that her husband is an investment banker.
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Tom Tugendhat has rejected suggestions that he is too posh to be the next Tory leader. (See 11.04am.) When it was put to him on Sky’s Sunday Morning With Trevor Phillips that the party did not need another “posh boy leader from a great public school”, Tugendhat replied:
I think the Conservative party needs a leader who can lead, and you can judge me on the decisions my parents made 35 years ago or you can judge me on the decisions I have made for the last 35 years.
I think that decisions I have made for the last 35 years demonstrate the character that you are looking at.
I have chosen consistently to serve our country. I have put myself on the front line in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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According to Harry Cole from the Sun, Tory officials are still saying there is no plan to shorten the leadership contest.
NEW: Tory officials stress there is still no plan to shorten the race despite fresh round of calls.
— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) September 29, 2024
NEW: Tory officials stress there is still no plan to shorten the race despite fresh round of calls.
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Jenrick says Tory leadership contest should end early, so new leader can be in place to oppose ‘very harmful’ budget
Robert Jenrick told Times Radio he wanted the Tory leadership contest to end early, so the new leader is in post in time for the budget. (See 10.28am.) Asked if he wanted that, he replied:
Yes, absolutely, because I think that the budget coming up is likely to be very harmful to families, to businesses, to investment in this country, and I want to be the one at the dispatch box making that argument.
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Badenoch says she does not want leadership contest to end early
Kemi Badenoch told Times Radio she was not backing calls for the end of the Tory leadership contest to be brought forward.
Asked if the contest should end earlier, she replied: “No, it’s fine.”
She also said, if she were to win, she would offer jobs to all three other candidates still in the contest. Asked if that included “even Robert Jenrick”, she replied “even Robert Jenrick”.
The leadership candidates are under orders from party officials to avoid blue-on-blue attacks. But, in so far as there have been personal attacks, they have involved Badenoch and Jenrick, the two favourites. (See 9.27am.)
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Jenrick claims he has been subject to snobbery in Tory leadership contest because he’s from Midlands
Robert Jenrick, the current favourite in the Tory leadership contest, has claimed that he has been subject to a degree of snobbery in the Tory leadership contest.
Asked if he had encountered snobbery, he said:
I think you do have that sometimes and I’m not ashamed to be described as provincial.
Somebody I think gave a quote to one of the newspapers over the weekend saying that I was from the Midlands. Look, people who come from places like I come from often get subjected to a degree of snobbishness, but that’s water off a duck’s back to me.
Jenrick’s parents grew up working class and he was brought up in the Midlands. He went to a private school, but it was Wolverhampton grammar school, not an elite establishment like St Paul’s school in London (which is where Tom Tugendhat went). Jenrick subsequently went to Cambridge University and worked as a corporate lawyer before becoming an MP.
Jenrick, who is MP for Newark in Nottinghamshire, also said the Tory party should be “the trade union of the working people of this country”. He told Times Radio:
I think the Conservative party is at its best when it’s the trade union of the working people of this country, when it’s representing hard-working people in all parts of our country, particularly the smaller cities and towns that I know well and I’m proud to represent.
In his own interview with Times Radio, Tugendhat said he was not aware of anyone being snobbish about Jenrick.
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Boris Johnson says it is ‘overwhelmingly likely’ Covid virus was created in Chinese laboratory
The Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday have been serialising extracts from Boris Johnson’s memoirs over the past three days, and the latest lead story is what Johnson says in the book about China and Covid. Johnson says he believes a leak from a Chinese laboratory was to blame for the pandemic. As the Mail on Sunday reports, Johnson says:
The awful thing about the whole Covid catastrophe is that it appears to have been entirely man-made, in all its aspects.
It now looks overwhelmingly likely that the mutation was the result of some botched experiment in a Chinese lab.
Some scientists were clearly splicing bits of virus together like the witches in Macbeth – eye of bat and toe of frog – and oops, the frisky little critter jumped out of the test tube and started replicating all over the world.
This is not something Johnson said when he was prime minister, and not something that most western leaders have been willing to say – partly because the evidence for this is not conclusive, but more because saying this would infuriate China.
UPDATE: According to a recent article for the New Statesman, “a new study by an international team concludes it is more likely that the virus emerged from wild animals sold at the [Wuhan] market and not from a lab escape”.
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Tom Tugendhat backs calls for contest to end early so new Tory leader elected in time for budget
On Saturday Jason Groves in the Mail said the Conservative party is close to agreeing to bring forward the end date of the Tory leadership contest, so that a new leader is in place for the budget, which is on Wednesday 30 October. By convention, the leader of the opposition replies to budget statements.
Groves said:
Senior Conservatives are in talks about bringing forward the announcement of the party’s new leader by a week from its current date of November 2.
This would allow the leader to take charge in time to respond to Ms Reeves’s ‘parliament-defining’ Budget on October 30 – and help prevent the climax of the contest being buried by the avalanche of news surrounding the US presidential election on November 5.
But it would cut short the time for the final two candidates to appeal to party members.
The plan was mooted in July when the date of the Budget was fixed. At that point, one of the six candidates objected to the idea of being thrust immediately into responding to the Budget, which is regarded as one of the toughest jobs an opposition leader faces.
Senior Tories now plan to push the idea again when the field of four is whittled down to two after this week’s Conservative Party conference.
Both candidates will have to agree for the plan to go ahead, but a source said they would be ‘advised they are making a big mistake if they don’t’.
In an interview with Times Radio this morning, Tom Tugendhat said he was in favour of the contest being brought forward.
He also said, if he were elected leader, he would appoint the three other candidates in the contest now to his shadow cabinet.
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Pat McFadden says Labour will change rules so ministerial hospitality has to be declared in MPs’ register
Pat McFadden, the Cabinet Office minister, defended Keir Starmer’s record on donations in his interview with Laura Kuenssberg.
He said that the clothes were campaign donations because “presentation, whether we like or not, is part of a campaign”. And he defended the right of MPs to accept tickets to events, saying people wanted to see politicians at events like this.
He also said the current rules on what MPs have to declare in the register of members’ interests were unfair, because opposition MPs and backbenchers have to declare hospitality but ministers don’t (in theory because ministerial hospitality is declared in the register of ministers’ interests). McFadden said Labour would change this rule so all hospitality has to be declared in the MPs’ register.
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Duffield says she thinks Starmer has problem working with women
Turning to Labour, Kuenssberg broadcast an interview with Rosie Duffield recorded last night. In it Duffield repeated the reasons for her resignation set out in her letter to Keir Starmer.
Asked if she thought Starmer had a problem working with women, Duffield said she did. She said:
I’m afraid I do, yes [think Starmer has a problem with women]. I mean, I’ve experienced it myself.
Most backbenchers that I’m friends with are women and most of us refer to the men that [surround Starmer] as the lads, you know, and it’s very clear that the lads are in charge.
Duffield also said those “lads” were the ones would had been briefing against her.
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Badenoch says NHS should remain free at the point of use for now – but does not rule put system changing eventually
Kuenssberg asks about the NHS, and something Badenoch said in an interview in the Times yesterday. Badenoch told the paper:
I don’t think we are ready for changing the principle of free at the point of use, certainly not immediately. If we are going to reform things like that, I think we need to have a serious cross-party, national conversation.
This implied that Badenoch would favour charging for the NHS at some point.
Q: Should the NHS be free at the point of deliver forever?
Badenoch says there is a consensus in favour of free at the point of use at the moment. But there are many ways to deliver a free at the point of use service that don’t need the government to be involved in every aspect, she says.
Q: The Times comment implies that one day you might backing charging for NHS services.
Badenoch says: “It might be that the public decide that.”
Q: But what is your view?
Badenoch says she has given her view. She is not in favour of charging now.
Q: But you might change your mind in the future?
Badenoch says she can’t say whether she will change her mind in the future. But she is saying what she thinks now, she says.
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Q: In your article you complain about immigrants who hate Israel. How do you know that?
Badenoch talks about what she saw on social media, and how upsetting it was to see people rip down posters of the 7 Ocotber victims.
Q: How do you know those were recent immigrants?
Badenoch says she is not saying the only people who hate Israel are immigrants. But she is struck by the number of immigrants who hate Israel.
She says she does not want immigrants coming to the UK bringing with them conflicts from abroad.
Q: Who are you talking about specifically?
Badenoch accuses Kuenssberg of trying to get her to say Muslims. But it is not just Muslims, she says.
At this point the conversation gets testy. Kuenssberg says she is just asking Badenoch to explain and justify what she has said. Badenoch claims she is being clear.
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Kemi Badenoch is now being interviewed by Laura Kuenssberg.
Kuenssberg starts with another quote from Badenoch’s Sunday Telegraph article. Badenoch said:
Culture is more than cuisine or clothes. It’s also customs which may be at odds with British values. We cannot be naïve and assume immigrants will automatically abandon ancestral ethnichostilities at the border, or that all cultures are equally valid. They are not.
Q: Which cultures are less valid than ours?
Badenoch says cultures that believes in child marriage, or that don’t give women equal rights.
She goes on:
I actually think it’s extraordinary that people think that’s an unusual, controversial thing to say.
Of course, not all cultures are equally valid. I don’t believe in cultural relativism. I believe in western values, the principles which have made this country great, and I think that we need to make sure that we continue to abide by those principles, to keep the society that we have now.
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